is Abe a dogma?

[muriz]

today I saw a movie and the girl said:

"I like to know all the possibilities and get never sticked to a belief system"

and then I watched the last WS from San Diego and this funny fatty gay man talked about something like that too for 2 secs and it's just going round and round in my mind

is Abe a dogma??????

what about Hemingway??'

what about Nietszche??

what about all of those??

they all had belief system didn't they?

because i feel like i've for a long time been sticking to Abe Teachings in such a way that's it's like........ hold on!

but then......... it works, and i see evidence of the functionality of all of it not daily, but "hourly" it's like........ yeah, I don't even have to keep momentum going on anymore, things just.......

so, I don't know what Abe is I don't know what they say to us or what they do to us or any of it I just feel how good it feels, how fun it is, and how right it feels and I guess that's enough isn't it?

otherwise I get into the weeds... (which I also like to smoke once in a while )

anyways, what are your thoughts guys?

thank you

[muriz]

oh because then I hear: "HAVE YOUR OWN BELIEF SYSTEM!"

and I'm like... well I do have my own............. and it's so Abe-based I wouldn't be actually able to accurately define whether it's mine or theirs, ya know?

get the idea?




but at the same time........... it works and there's a part that doesn't want to admit it but yeah I see, literally, physical manifestations at perfect timings happening, there, right in front of me, I feel it, I see it, I can touch it smell it hear it bla bla bla and I feel new and refreshed and I feel like my pic over there in the left, right?

you know what I mean.

but then it's like............ well what if Abe wouldn't have been there, which words would you use to describe what is going on in your mind and how you make it all work?

[zenjenn]

oh because then I hear: "HAVE YOUR OWN BELIEF SYSTEM!"

and I'm like... well I do have my own............. and it's so Abe-based I wouldn't be actually able to accurately define whether it's mine or theirs, ya know?

get the idea?




but at the same time........... it works and there's a part that doesn't want to admit it but yeah I see, literally, physical manifestations at perfect timings happening, there, right in front of me, I feel it, I see it, I can touch it smell it hear it bla bla bla and I feel new and refreshed and I feel like my pic over there in the left, right?

you know what I mean.

but then it's like............ well what if Abe wouldn't have been there, which words would you use to describe what is going on in your mind and how you make it all work?

Yeah, I understand. There are things I wished were not true. I wish it was easier that's for sure. I've had times when i thought it would serve me to say...no your wrong, I can still get what i want ...neener neener. Then i just get back itv and I don't care anyone either way....lol! Good to see you dude! I would certainly like to make up my own rules, but shouting at the universe hasn't seemed to work thus far. So much for that theory...!

[Twilight Mikkala]

ive a friend who claims to believe in nothing i danced with it a few days theres something in nothing it was enlighting clearing freeing but i know him and he asin i do beielf in whatever the cat ic the pure esscence of source energy the cat doesnt believe it knows as all animal plants do do i reguire and will create beliefe until i know like my divine teachers the animals within you as in me there are places one is rooted in all mighty knowingness and places where we lug beliefs around we are here to know thyself we are here becoming spec selfs and bocoming the oneness of all tht isgreat hread here some goood self thinking going downi had a great sleepy and im feeling almost sweet love has expectations twilight kala longe lizard seeing heart do ya think i need to write a book or somrthing like that

[muriz]

ive a friend who claims to believe in nothing i danced with it a few days theres something in nothing it was enlighting clearing freeing but i know him and he asin i do beielf in whatever the cat ic the pure esscence of source energy the cat doesnt believe it knows as all animal plants do do i reguire and will create beliefe until i know like my divine teachers the animals within you as in me there are places one is rooted in all mighty knowingness and places where we lug beliefs around we are here to know thyself we are here becoming spec selfs and bocoming the oneness of all tht isgreat hread here some goood self thinking going downi had a great sleepy and im feeling almost sweet love has expectations twilight kala longe lizard seeing heart do ya think i need to write a book or somrthing like that

I do think you totally, not need, but WAAAAAAANT AND WILL write a book, just make sure you have your spelling checked before the final edition



send me a copy!

[muriz]

monkey-mind I know........ but beautiful answers coming out of it, for sure.



PS: I wish my german was as good

[muriz]

I know you can try all you want but there's just no way around it, isn't it.

[Twilight Mikkala]

excellent question cause yeah im a fierce self thinking harddddddd headed wench im a poet i was born in the underworlds before time each single humanbeing is a universe a galaxy onto our selfsi am as you are my own langauge spelling ill be getting dictiondragon soon for a while i was a wonderous abe cheerleading puppet but i said its okay enjoy the ride its good butta yeah i willi will come into my own and you man i am restoredyo myself you could check out my post sselfthinking selfwording relax simply want it to be restoredand say it i will come into my own again self thinking galore this works percicely for one person its easter of course its her way no no ive been through this and come out the other side to me my own i love ester butta im allmighty mikkalai lov abe they have taught me the rudiments of happinessbut this is hoe e navagates the earth plane as a soul in flight lika they say 15 minutes uo med and lika 27 hours of i feel exercises and such honestly shine a light if i had to spend 2 hours let alone a cuze weekend with some of these ppl id bitch slap embetween the christeye this has been a cream in my jeans bust a relief laugh session for free seeing heart mikkala cranky you gotta love it thanks for enquiring knowthyself

[muriz]

excellent question cause yeah im a fierce self thinking harddddddd headed wench im a poet i was born in the underworlds before time each single humanbeing is a universe a galaxy onto our selfsi am as you are my own langauge spelling ill be getting dictiondragon soon for a while i was a wonderous abe cheerleading puppet but i said its okay enjoy the ride its good butta yeah i willi will come into my own and you man i am restoredyo myself you could check out my post sselfthinking selfwording relax simply want it to be restoredand say it i will come into my own again self thinking galore this works percicely for one person its easter of course its her way no no ive been through this and come out the other side to me my own i love ester butta im allmighty mikkalai lov abe they have taught me the rudiments of happinessbut this is hoe e navagates the earth plane as a soul in flight lika they say 15 minutes uo med and lika 27 hours of i feel exercises and such honestly shine a light if i had to spend 2 hours let alone a cuze weekend with some of these ppl id bitch slap embetween the christeye this has been a cream in my jeans bust a relief laugh session for free seeing heart mikkala cranky you gotta love it thanks for enquiring knowthyself

who aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare you????????????????????????? let's have a coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marc]

Here's the flaw in your premise -- the core of what Abraham teaches has nothing to do with who they are. Everything they talk about has Universal law at its heart, and it's going to be there whether they're who they claim to be or not. To use a scientific example, Isaac Newton wrote about the law of gravity, but you don't have to accept who Isaac Newton is for the law of gravity to affect you. Rather, you can do your own observations, calculations, experiments, etc. to come to your own knowing that gravity works in the way that Newton describes. Similarly, not only can you do the same sort of thing with LOA, Abraham encourages you to do so. As they've said many, many, many times -- words don't teach, it's life experience that teaches.

So, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter who Abe is. The more important question is, does LOA work in the way that they describe that it works? That's something you can determine for yourself through your focus and experience. From my own experience, I don't hope it works, I don't think it would be nice if it works, I don't have to tell myself it works, I KNOW it works. I've had the experiences that have taught me that beyond all shadow of a doubt, and I also know that the experiences I had weren't a product of Abraham's doing, they were a product of my focus. Abraham may have given words to express how LOA works, but they didn't wave a magic wand to make things happen -- I focused deliberately, I knew how I focused, I knew how I felt, and I saw the results of that focus. Words didn't teach, life experience taught me.