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    my grand grandmother's transition too slow??

    WHY IS SHE still clinging to physical???

    can I influence her in some way? say something? imagine something?

    she's half here half there, we all want in our family for her to just go but she doesn't, what's up?

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    we're planning on taking the pills out of her but that'd be more trouble than it's needed

    GRANDPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA TAKE HER WITH YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


    she's turning 100............................................... ...............

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    Maybe she's "asked" to reach 100!?

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    too slow in your opinioin, you mean! it's her transition, not yours! let her do it her own damn way! maybe she's taking her time cos she's resisting going... and maybe she's taking her time cos there is still something she wants to do here (like reach 100, Love that answer, Wizard.)

    Whatever the reason, it AIN'T YOUR PIE!

    All you can do is get in the vortex and focus on her well-being, which may or may not influence how she transitions, but at least you'll then be accpeting of it, however it is, and however long it takes.

    Really, honey, as Abe said to Esther about Jerry's croaking, 'You don't get to choose this. You can experience it in pain or you can experience it in joy' she chose joy....

    over to you.


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    I heard this from Abe in some audio - Years ago Esther-Jerry did phone calls. People would take appointment to talk with Abraham. Each session was about 15 min. In one such session, a woman talked about her mother/grandmother being on verge of death and in lot of pain. Abraham told her to go downstream about this / feel better and then she could be a good influence on the old woman. In next-to-next session, the woman called up to tell Abraham about the old woman's transition.

    Your thread reminded me of this story (details might be here and there, the essence is intact).

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    Itīs not possible "to die in a wrong way". Some need a slow transition, for many reasons that we all just can guess, but never know.
    My grandmom (96) died over 3 painful years and nobody understood, me neither. I just knew she was scared of being condemned by God.
    And I knew she did EVERYTHING slow, all her life

    Each time I met her or thought about her I was giving all my focus into KNOWING that she was empowered, that she felt clear, that she felt loved and in ease (=I tried to look only at her Vortex-Version). I donīt know if it helped, but it surely felt so much better and completely in peace for ME.

    Train your focus dear one, look at the wanted side. And then, EVERYTHING IS WELL!




    HS: “Jerry died the wrong way. He died through resistance.”
    Abe:
    "Well, it’s not possible to die the wrong way."

    Abe North LA 2012


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    She's got the rest of eternity for non-physical, maybe she's hanging on to teach/show the rest of you something about your own reactions/feelings?!

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    I'm sure with Rach on this one.

    When i read your post it felt OOTV to me. Just my humble opinion.

    This is your grandmothers transition to make.
    See the vortex version of her in your mind. Send her your love. Let it go.
    And she will go when it feels HER time to return to Source.....

    As Aber's our minds know there is no death. It's harder for my heart to accept that idea.
    However our loved one's that we've co-created our lives with deserve dignity and respect as they choose to make their transition.

    PS. Why she's still here is none of your business.
    Last edited by SourceAngel9; 08-11-2012 at 05:55 AM.

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    Have you ever watched a very young child at a swimming pool walk out to the end of the diving board and stand there and stand there and stand there trying to take that last step off into the pool?

    Do you remember the first time you walked out to the end of a diving board for the first time?

    This is exactly the same. There is just a fear of the unknown, unknown to the conscious physical mind, of what will happen. There is fear.

    Eventually, she will allow the jump. And it will be glorious. It will be exceptional. You can help by simply appreciating your grandmother. Looking into her eyes, remembering everything it is that soothes you about her, feeling everything that it is that thrills you about her. Hold her hand. Appreciate her. Just feel your love for her. All is well.

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    I don't mean this to sound flip or insensitive ... but ... Think about what you're effectively saying here:

    "Grandma, please croak/go into the Vortex faster so that we can all feel better ..." You are asking her to do something different than she is doing so that you can feel Relief. But she can't buck your family's negative current. Willing someone to go because you are struggling with what you perceive to be their prolonged suffering or struggle is not the same as peacefully letting them go, no matter how well-meaning your desire for them is.

    Is she ever left alone - I mean literally alone? There is often so much fear and concern these days about people "dying alone" - e.g. "Oh, that person died ALL ALONE! HOW HORRIBLE!" - that the dying are not left in peace. But some people really would rather make their transition alone (even if they're mostly sleeping) because it's EASIER for them - it's even traditional in some cultures for those who feel it's their time to seek solitude. They are pulled this way and that by the real and surmised fears and expectations of their loved ones, not to mention their own, so being free of those vibrations for a little while allows them to know more clearly what they want and how they want it and to just go at their own pace, and they do not suffer. If you can't be in the room with her and at peace with what-is at the same time, maybe it's best you not be in the room. But then do not feel guilty about "not being there", okay?

    Your work here is not to somehow influence your great-grandmother toward some result that you think would be better for her and you - your work is to know that nothing is going wrong, to know that all is well, and soothe or distract yourself such that you feel better NOW; cry if that offers you Relief. And to the greatest degree you are able, feel the Unconditional Love and Appreciation for her and all that she has helped you to experience that is Who You Really Are. That is the best thing you can do for yourself, and thus it is the best thing you can do for her, too.

    If you want an "Abraham process" for this, I'd recommend the approach, "What do you want, and WHY do you want it?" Now, I am going to presume that you don't really want your grandmother to just be gone, but rather that you want her to transition into complete Well-Being again (which in Truth actually COULD even mean recovery and another sprightly few decades, btw, if any of the parties involved could Allow it ), that you want her to feel good and alive and full of energy and Ease and Joy, and that you want those things because you know that that is Who She Really Is and because seeing and knowing her absolute Joy and Well-Being makes you happy, too. So you have to focus as best you can on those feelings (that grid, if you will) of being happy for her NOW - which is probably easiest when you are not in the room with her, witnessing her on what you perceive to be her "death bed." And then you can take some of that feeling with you if and when you do go to visit her.

    All my Love to you, dearheart muriz! I know that this is not the easiest time to be practicing these principles. But we never experience anything we are not ready for. You do of course have the choice to take the traditional route of dealing with this death in the family - but I have the strong feeling that that is not the muriz way.


    Christine

    ETA: IB just summarized this sermon of mine:

    "Get in the Vortex - and then maybe you can coax her in. But you will never push her in from an outside-the-Vortex stance."
    Last edited by CreatorChristine; 08-11-2012 at 12:17 PM.

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