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    Abeīs take on "Materialism" and "Ego"

    Iīm highly inspired to put out this subversive quotes for the sake of inspiration!



    "Materialism"


    ...Call it materialism, if you want to.
    WE call it Creation-ism!

    We call it coming forth, just as you knew you would,
    sifting through the details of this very materialistic world,
    coming into greater conclusion of what you donīt want-
    which causes you to give birth to what you do want,

    but more than anything:
    You didnīt create a car or a place!
    You created YOU. In a lifestyle.
    You created YOU, in a feeling-place.
    You created a vibrational, good feeling, GOOD FEELING version of you!

    And as you create that good feeling version of you,
    and as you learn to align with it consistently,
    NOW thatīs what you came to live, you see!

    And THATīS (...), thatīs really the leading-edge shift in understanding
    that we wish for all of you here, today.

    from the Clip Abraham Hicks - Is Mass Consciousness attracting unwanted energies


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    "Ego"


    "And so, if anybody is implying that being specific
    about the direction of thought is an egotistical thing
    that should be stopped, we say, yeah,
    let's bring the whole entire Universe to a halt, too.
    You cannot cease having your perspective
    and from your perspective you will never stop attracting.

    And so, if we were in your powerful, beautiful, egotistical,
    selfishly oriented, just-the-way-it-is-supposed-to-be bodies,
    we would be guiding our thoughts by the virtue of
    what the EGO of SOURCE...
    oh, we are really going to mix things up!
    -wait until they get a hold of that one...
    the Ego of Source is encouraging.

    In other words, we're trying to encourage
    an alignment of you with You.

    And so, there is nothing wrong with this powerful perspective
    that you hold.
    That whole thing comes from an underpinning that is flawed
    at its basis that says:
    Source is good and the human is inferior.
    And so, let's do everything we can to undermine
    the egotistical human while we try to embellish and enhance
    the Source that is so good.

    -And what we're saying to you is,
    you are Source.
    You are an extension of Source.
    You came with intentionality and reason for being
    and call it ego or call it anything you want.
    Just don't let go of that consciousness."

    ~Abraham-Hicks, San Diego, CA, 3-10-07

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    When I was younger, due to some painful exposure to someone who had decided materialism was wrong, and ego was a dirty word, I wondered what was true. And I asked my NP councilors what was EGO and what I got back was

    Ego is kind of like the universe's location device, for each individual, its where, when and to what capacity or size. So it is really a central important thing.
    (this helps somehow with the delivery of stuff etc)(its like the center dot which ripples outwards if you imagine waves on water)


    And then gladly, I found some kind of way to get along well with materialism, and found what I think is Abe saying, materialism is just manifest spirituality... and that makes perfect sense to me, because when you get on a good feeling wavelength, on a good vibe, and you ride that out for a while, the materialism which will manifest and surround you will without doubt be of a higher order like, heavenly.

    So I think matter is just wavelengths solidified. So this is why its important to be true to your perspective, and feel good (get on a good wavelength) and then you'll be involved in a more heaven on Earth kind of situation.

    Its hard for me to imagine what anti-ego people are really saying when they say the ego is this and that.
    I think of ego as saying, Here, Now, this amount.

    Ego has little to do with focusing on Lack or something.
    When those people who believe unpleasant things about the ego, when they talk about it they mean when the ego chooses not to focus on something that feels better, but instead of blaming focus, they imagine the problem is that the person's individual perspective is actually cutting them off. But its just not. The individual perspective is everything. Ego is wholly important.

    Its the focus which has gone wrong. I just had a experience like this a few months ago, and it was suggested to me (very nicely and tenderly) that I might be being a little egotistical. And then I really reached and grasped to see if I could find something of sense or value in that perspective. And I couldn't, because if you are GOD, then how can your ego be too big? Its almost like the person was saying, don't be yourself, don't want what you know is yours to have.

    My problem was not that my ego was too big. My problem was that when I was HURTING, this was an indication that I was stopping short of seeing what I wanted! It was an indication that what I was focusing on- was NOT- the end of the story. (I'm not suggesting ended-ness, I am suggesting not taking the bounce is painful)

    Expanding my consciousness, or shrinking it, is as a result of my focus. I think everyone has had the sensation of knowing this abe stuff, then getting involved in a wavelength where you literally forget it. An expanded consciousness, or being conscious of less, is more a result of focus than ego. Sure your ego is larger as you allow your focus to widen, and you allow yourself to be and have more. And the trauma of not being God, after you've been God forever hurts tremendously. But this is not because your ego is too large, this is because you are focusing on something your Inner Being will not validate...

    And the faster the speed, the more the incredible pain in my experience...
    There is also nothing wrong with having a smaller sense of who you are. As long as you are honoring your perspective and not going against what your inner being is holding for you it will not hurt. As long as a person is feeling pleased then they are engaged in more heavenly vibrations which must then become heavenly matter. But if you know you are God, and then you try to deny that, its the most painful devastating horrible thing on earth. And it doesn't mean your ego is too big, it means your focus is OFF!

    Ego is brilliant, ego is awareness with a perspective.

    Being psychic or merging with Abe kinds of expanded consciousness, doesn't mean you've lost your ego. Always when we expand our consciousness we become MORE, not less. So we see more from our perspectives. We don't lose our perspective, we widen it.

    As you widen your perspective, see more and be more, and validate your ego, validate who your inner being knows you are, you must feel good! And the you must increase the manifestation of heavenly feel good vibrations on Earth!! So ego is the perspective and the size of what we claim vibrationally and manifest/allow "emotional vibration" into physical matter on earth!! (or painfully and terribly deny, ouch)

    So then having a big ego, which is fulfilled through focus on pleasing vibrations, is a wonderful manifestation and manifests heavenly things on this earth!! The bigger the ego, the more good stuff you can choose to vibrate with (can have bigger expectations!!) and will be funneled into matter or otherwise met with. Through the vortex I suppose. (or maybe is it vibrated into rendezvous?)

    I love your question and thread POE. Terrific! Wait, you didn't ask a question! lol lmao I guess I like the question I asked in response to your wonderful thread. haha I guess I like my response too!! hahahahaha Okay, this day is off to a good start!! Fun fun fun.


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    beautiful!

    thank you paradise-on-earth
    love them both
    feels so allowing and natural and exciting and fun and beautiful and full : )
    xxxxxxx

    Quote Originally Posted by paradise-on-earth View Post
    "Ego"


    we would be guiding our thoughts by the virtue of
    what the EGO of SOURCE...

    the Ego of Source is encouraging.

    In other words, we're trying to encourage
    an alignment of you with You.


    ~Abraham-Hicks, San Diego, CA, 3-10-07

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    So I guess its not the ego per se, its the expectations which help you allow bigger things.
    Or at least not getting in discordant vibrations in response to who you think you are, aka, who your inner being is telling you you are...

    These are just my thoughts, I'm not insisting they are right in anyway, but when I think of Abe and I think of this, this is what I get.

    Always, though, THEY will probably come out with more info, or I will resonate with some more info from them and get more clarity if needed.

    Can one's sense of self be too large to sustain?
    No, because its all about the focus, not the manifestations right?

    If you have a huge sense of self, then you just go with that, and then it doesn't hurt.
    But if you wait for something else to come along and insist it, then that will hurt, because you are on the lack end asking for manifestation to over ride your focus...

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    Selfishness is perfect because if you tend to your own vibrations, tend to the perspective which asks and can then receive, tend and maintain those blissful vibes as only YOU can, then you will have focused more pleasurable vibrations and where you are located will be that much more heavenly.

    And your good vibes will influence others.
    You can't vibrate for other people. You can only selfishly maintain your own good vibes. The only way you can choose what feels better is if you are true to your perspective, this means ego validated, and feeling really good. This means selfishly choosing, as others cannot do this for you nor can you know whats right for them from their perspective, this why selfishness is so perfect.

    If ego is like a dot on the water, then not having an ego would be like just being a wavelength with no center point. But even that is impossible. Maybe thats like when Jerry says (paraphrasing) if you are not about your own plan then you will become part of someone else's.

    But when I think of waves on water, the center point radiates waves with more clarity. So you've got to be selfishly ego satisfied. Like radiate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaily View Post

    I love your question and thread POE. Terrific! Wait, you didn't ask a question! lol lmao I guess I like the question I asked in response to your wonderful thread. haha I guess I like my response too!! hahahahaha Okay, this day is off to a good start!! Fun fun fun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild and Beautiful View Post
    beautiful!

    thank you paradise-on-earth
    love them both
    feels so allowing and natural and exciting and fun and beautiful and full : )
    xxxxxxx
    Yes, I understood it so long, but it comes into even more FULLNESS and depth for me!

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    "…..your Ego is not a problem,
    in fact your Ego is essential to your fulfilling
    of your reason for being here.

    Because what we would describe your ego as,
    is as this physical countenance or ability to perceive.

    Your ego is your physical focuser,
    and if you did not have this egotistical ability to focus,
    then you would not be of any advantage to the non-physical energy.
    So it is not having the Ego that is the problem.
    Itīs using the Ego to EXCLUDE that, is the problem.

    It is using the Ego to talk about what you DON'T WANT.
    If you were an egotistical being, talking about what you DO WANT purely,
    you would stay in sync with that non-physical energy
    and you would fulfill your reason for being."


    Abraham-Hicks tape G-5-18-96

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    The full transcript to post# 2


    Guest:
    Good morning. My question is about other authors and presenters
    that speak within the realm of Law of Attraction.
    Often times, I've heard them talk about the ego and the need to destroy the ego
    or conquer the ego, eliminate the ego or whatever the language is they use.
    To me that sounds like a couple of things.

    One, there is this stream of ego that is different from the stream of well-being that flows.
    And it needs to be resisted in order for you to overcome it.
    Can you help me understand better what they might be talking about
    and what they are trying to say?

    Abraham:
    If we were saying that, we wouldn't be... but if we were saying that, but we wouldn't be...
    if we were saying that, but we wouldn't be, if we were saying that,
    oh we just can't say that.
    (audience laugher).

    But, here is what we think they are getting at.
    When you want something, and you are aware it isn't coming.
    And you are thinking about it coming with your conscious awareness
    and personality and speaking your words about it.
    We think they are calling that highly focused being as the ego,
    that is in the way of allowing.

    It is sort of like, people saying...well, I'm just going to let go and let God.
    And students of deliberate creation say, well,
    where does that fall into the realm of deliberate creation?
    And we say, you really have to look at these two vantage points
    that you've got going on of who you really are and who you are being in this moment.

    And then, try to guide yourself to come into alignment.

    Oh, here, you are really going to like this.
    Don't try to tell it to them. Just feel the way this settles within you.
    So, you are Source energy who wanted to come forth into physical experience.
    Does that sound like focused intent?
    We think the word, ego, could be applied there,
    but humans mean so many different things when they use any word that...
    it sort of messes it up.

    But, let's just talk about the powerful intent of coming forth.
    Now, here you are and you are living life. You're coming to conclusions.
    Those conclusions are an extension of that God/Source intention.
    Now, you are coming to personal awareness of what you prefer
    and the Source within you is riding that rocket. That is intent also, you see.

    And so, if anybody is implying that being specific about the direction of thought
    is an egotistical thing that should be stopped, we say, yeah,
    let's bring the whole entire Universe to a halt, too.
    You cannot cease having your perspective
    and from your perspective you will never stop attracting.

    And so, if we were in your powerful, beautiful, egotistical,
    selfishly oriented, just the way it is suppose to be bodies,
    we would be guiding our thoughts by the virtue of what the EGO of SOURCE...
    oh, we are really going to mix things up; wait until they get ahold of that one...
    the Ego of Source is encouraging.

    In other words, we're trying to encourage an alignment of you with You.

    And so, there is nothing wrong with this powerful perspective that you hold.
    That whole thing comes from an underpinning that is flawed at its basis
    that says: Source is good and the human is inferior.
    And so, let's do everything we can to undermine the egotistical human,
    while we try to embellish and enhance the Source, that is so good.

    And what we're saying to you, you are Source.
    You are an extension of Source.
    You came with intentionality and reason for being, and call it ego
    or call it anything you want. Just don't let go of that consciousness.


    San Diego 3-10-07

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