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    Your body has the capability of regenerating itself-
    Endlessly!



    "What we would do if we were standing in your physical shoes, is
    -we would disassociate age with activity
    or age with the way that you feel,


    because your body is a cellular mass
    that is monitored and created through electrical charges,
    and the cellular mass has the capability of regenerating itself.
    Endlessly."

    Abe




    "When it feels good, then it IS good."

    Abe

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    "...I must have done something wrong
    because I stand here not in a good feeling place right now
    so I must be being punished for something."

    -We say: Nooo! Just have more fun!
    Be more playful.


    Phoenix, Dec. 2012


    There is nothing
    that is off limits for you.

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    “Now, we are not telling you that it is right or wrong for you
    to eat the cake.
    We are telling you that only you know how you feel about it.

    And if you eat the cake and feel good,
    then you can eat a lot of cake
    and you can still maintain the figure that you want”


    Abe




    Your cells are as depressed as you are,
    and your cells are as happy and frisky as you are.

    Abraham-Hicks

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    The substance can´t substitute maintained vibrational relief


    Guest:
    I'd like to know what to do when relief looks like too many chocolate chip cookies,
    or too many games on the computer? Or for some, pain pills or alcohol?


    Abraham:
    If that keeps looking like relief, then what must be happening
    is you must be continuing to turn back the other way.
    In other words, we can see it looking like relief once or twice,
    but if it keeps being the thing that is relief,
    it means: that's relief, then you find the upstream thought,
    and that's relief, then you find the upstream thought,
    that's relief, then you find the upstream thought.


    That was really good!


    Boca Raton, FL, 10/30/06


    You did not come
    to react to conditions.
    You came to CREATE conditions!


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    How to help loved ones


    Guest:
    There are some members of my family that have a problem with alcohol.
    If they truly want to stop drinking, and they come to me,
    what do I tell them?

    Abraham:
    The most significant thing that you could do for anyone who is asking you,
    is to diffuse their trauma about it.
    We would diffuse any labels.
    We would explain to them that all who are physically focused
    have this powerful desire to feel good.
    You want, more than life itself, because it is life itself,
    to connect with that which is your Source.

    Some of you are born more sensitive to that vibration.
    You said about them, "You're too sensitive.
    You let things bother you too much."

    They were sensitive to things that they felt that they could not control,
    and they did not know how to choose the thoughts
    that allowed the Source Energy to flow.
    The more the Source Energy didn't flow, the worse they felt,
    because they came forth intending -- in a stronger way than others
    you might meet -- to be Teachers of that flow of Energy.

    And so, they discovered that the alcohol diffused their ability to focus,
    and in the diffusion of focus, they allowed more Connection.
    And as they allowed more Connection -- they felt better.

    It is with very well-meaning intent that they have found that action,
    and -- while it is not an action that we would encourage -
    - sometimes the respite of the alcohol or the drug
    is the only means to soothing that they can find.
    We would not say, you are bad; we would say -- you are sensitive.

    We would not say, you are weak; we would say -
    - you have this powerful desire to feel good.
    And in the midst of not being able to find a way
    to control what was happening-- you found a way to diffuse your awareness
    of how you were feeling.

    We see no solution in pushing against.
    The solution that we see is in soothing them back into their Connection;
    you don't demand them back, or condemn them back -
    - you appreciate them back.

    We do not see a way other than helping them to understand the whole picture:
    "You've got Source Energy that is flowing to you and through you,
    and when you're allowing it, you feel great -
    - and when you're not, you don't feel so good.

    We would teach them about the emotions,
    that are their Guidance System.

    From Houston, 1/5/02

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    Are drugs a path to alignment?


    Q:
    I tried about 80% of the drugs that were on the market,
    just to see what my friends were experiencing.
    I know why there are drug addicts now; it was so uplifting
    and brought me into a place of love, just wanting to go up
    to random people and just love everything about them.
    My mission now is to be in the same vibration, sober all the time.
    Is the drug telling us something about where we should be?

    A:
    <snip> It was an experience of induced releasing of resistance.
    We don’t encourage it because of the physiology of the body.
    The body will acclimate to that.
    And so in order to experience the releasing, is that you have to “up”
    the amount of the drug.

    The best part is that it brings you to an awareness of what the possibilities are.
    We are not pushing against that experience through drugs.
    It gave you something that was real to reach for.
    We just want you to know that when you achieve it through
    your deliberate alignment with Source,
    then and only then will you have it.

    The best of all worlds is variety and contrast.

    Pay attention to your guidance, and bring yourself into alignment,
    and stand in the new place, the new place, the new place.
    You believed it was a conscious experience.
    We want you to hear us and feel us:
    When you have lived life and expanded, and deliberately come into it,
    you can experience the ecstasy of that high vibration.

    There is no experience higher than tapping into to the VE
    that you and others have contributed to for eons.
    Feel the difference; you could get spacey on some drug. Feel clarity, feel no pain,
    ...Feel the difference to have your hands on, be tactile, to be physical,
    AND to have that source pulsing through you.

    The vibration- induced experience is a thousand fold of that
    [of the drug-induced experience].


    Caribbean Cruise, March 28, 2008

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    Quitting to smoke-
    What Are You Saying YES To?



    QUESTION:
    A thing I have a lot of resistance with is, to quit smoking.
    I’ve quit three times a year for about the last nine years,
    but I know I like it, but then I still feel ambivalent about it.

    ABRAHAM:
    It’s interesting because even your decision is resistant
    because you’re talking about not doing something.
    In other words, you’re saying, “I have resistance in quitting.”
    And so, let’s talk about this just a little bit.

    If you could smoke and not feel resistance,
    the smoking would not be of any detriment.
    It’s not the smoking that makes you sick,
    it’s resistance.


    The reason that smoking is becoming more and more detrimental
    is because people believe it’s bad, but they’re doing it anyway —
    and whenever you do something that you believe you shouldn’t do,
    there is extraordinary resistance.

    To do something that you believe is right: There’s no resistance.
    Or to not do something you believe is wrong, there’s no resistance —
    but to believe that it’s bad for you and to do it anyway,
    that’s where the resistance is.

    We think that the struggle you’re having with it is because
    there’s a part of you that is wanting you to know —
    and to assist others in knowing — that it is not the cigarettes
    that are the problem. It is the resistance that is the problem.

    So when you say, “I want to stop smoking,” we would say, well,
    what is it you do want?
    You’re saying “no” to smoking, which really what you’re saying is
    “no” to sickness or “no” to disapproval of others,
    or “no” to being banished in restaurants or in offices.
    You’re saying “no” to disapproval mostly, or “no” to declining health.

    So what are you saying “yes” to?
    “I want to have a vital, happy life.
    I want to feel the best I can feel in my body.
    I want to harmonize with people as much as possible.”
    As you begin talking about what you say “yes” to,
    what you will begin noticing is, that sometimes the “yes” to harmony
    will be stronger maybe than the “yes” to cigarettes,
    or maybe they are not separate.
    “Maybe I can have my cigarettes and have all of that, too.”

    We, some years ago, saw smoking as very beneficial to people
    because they usually did it purposefully to relax.
    It was a time that they sort of put everything else down,
    they went to a specific place to do it, they relaxed, they breathed deeply
    while they were doing it.

    Don’t you see people, very often, as they are drawing in the smoke,
    don’t you see them sort of relaxing and basking
    as the Energy flows through them?
    Can’t you see them sort of using it as an opportunity to release resistance?

    And if you could enjoy every cigarette you smoke, not by saying,
    “to hell with you who thinks I should go to the smoking section…”
    — in other words, as you resist the laws; as you resist the non-smokers
    who are so pious in their pushing against you;
    or as you resist anything about it that you don’t like — that’s resistance.
    Jerry talked about the holes in his clothes that he was putting there,
    or the stains on his fingers that he was putting there,
    and even as you resist those things you disallow the Well-being.

    So what we encourage you to do is, rather than saying,
    “I want to stop smoking,” we would encourage you to begin saying,
    “I want to allow the Energy to flow.
    What I’d really like is to find a way to let the Energy flow —
    I’d like to have my flow and smoking too.
    I’d like to be able to smoke and have Energy flow through me,
    at the same time.”


    The advocates against smoking would not be very happy to hear us,
    but they are wrong. They misunderstand.
    It is not a disease that kills you; it’s resistance that kills you.
    It’s not smoking that kills you; it’s resistance that kills you.
    It’s not a disease that makes you unhappy; it’s resistance.
    In other words, you have been misinformed.

    So if you believe, as we do, that smoking is not inherently bad
    for your health, would you want to stop?

    GUEST:
    No, the only reason I want to stop is because people I care about,
    care about me smoking, you know what I mean?

    ABRAHAM:
    Yes, because they love you and they think it’s bad for you.
    They have decided that if you smoke you can’t be well.
    And so, you’re wanting to seek their approval by doing what they want.
    The resistance you have is not to smoking.
    The resistance you have is having to stand on your head
    to please others.
    The resistance that you have is promoting conditional love.

    In other words, they’re saying to you,
    “I can’t feel good about you as long as you’re smoking.
    I’m afraid you’re going to die. I can’t allow the pure, positive Energy
    to flow through me as long as you’re smoking.
    You need to change what you’re doing in order for me to feel good.”

    And your resistance is, that every part of your Nonphysical being
    knows that it’s not your job to change your behavior,
    so that they can feel better.
    You can’t change your behavior in enough ways to make them feel better.
    You quit smoking, and then they’ll want you to lose weight,
    and you lose weight, and then they’ll want you to dress better,
    and then you dress better, and they’ll want you to buy a different kind of car,
    and then you buy a different kind of car,
    and they want you to move to the state where they live,
    and then you will move to the state where they live,
    and they’ll want you to let your hair grow out,
    and then they’ll want you to cut it and then they’ll want you
    to make it a different color and then they’ll want you to act your age
    and then they’ll want you…

    in other words, you just can’t stand on your head in enough different ways
    to make disconnected people happy,
    because what you’re doing, isn’t what’s bothering them anyway.

    It’s their own disallowance of the Energy.
    And to just play into that by standing on your head
    only perpetuates this myth about conditional love, you see.

    And so, what you’re wanting to say to those who love you who say,
    “I don’t want you to smoke because I don’t want you to be sick,”
    say to them, from your place of knowing, “Hey, I’m strong and well!
    Everything’s all right here. Actually, this smoking soothes me.
    I’m a lot less likely to die of a heart attack when I smoke than if I were to quit.
    If I stopped smoking now, it would aggravate me!”

    G-02/18/95

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    Again: how to help addicts?


    QUESTION:
    I am a counselor and I work with a number of people
    who are seeking assistance or release from a variety of kinds of addictions:
    drugs, gambling, food, alcohol.
    I'm wanting to be of the greatest assistance I can be to them,
    and I'd like your assistance.

    ABRAHAM:
    Well, the thing about all of those addictions
    is that there is another hunger, that is deeper,
    that is beyond the cellular hunger for the substance.

    Each of you, as you come forth into these bodies,
    are full of this Nonphysical Energy Stream that created you
    and that sustains you.
    You are spirit embodied in this flesh, blood, bone apparatus,
    but then, as you bang around for a while and you see disapproval
    in the eyes of so many, and you, every day, pick up something else
    that you push against, little by little you become familiar
    with disallowing the Energy Stream.

    All feel the diminishment, but some feel it more than others.
    Those who come forth with the intense decision that they will
    stay connected to the Stream, those who have come forth
    with very strong determination to express what they know about
    this Energy Stream, they suffer greatly when they choose vibrations
    that disallow it fully.

    But almost nobody is talking about vibration.
    It would be a rare alcoholics meeting or drug counseling session
    where anyone would say to the one across the table,
    "Well, you know, you're holding thoughts
    that are keeping you vibrationally separated
    from who you really are."


    And yet, that is what is at the heart of it.
    And so, that void that they are feeling which is the void of joy,
    the void of clarity, the void of Energy, the void of life,
    that is the void they are trying to fill by buying one more thing
    and bringing it home, or by utilizing a substance that distracts them,
    in this moment, from the things that cause them to push against.

    When you utilize a drug or alcohol, your cork floats, in the beginning,
    because just like hypnosis or meditation, you are distracted
    from whatever thought that is holding you in the slower vibration.
    And so, when you're distracted from what is holding you there,
    your vibration raises. That's why they call it a high.

    This is the first thing that, as a counselor, you must accept-
    so that you can convey it, vibrationally, even if you don't do it in words:
    What they are addicted to, is feeling better.

    What they are addicted to is feeling better.
    What they are addicted to is the higher vibration.
    And, bless their hearts, they've been banging around,
    until they found some way that they could facilitate that for themselves.

    And then you say: "No. This is ultimately bad for you.
    It makes you do bad things. And so, we will take this method
    that you have found, that is the only method that you have been able
    to find for getting yourself into a higher vibration,
    we're going to take that away from you because it isn't good for you.
    We're going to label you and condemn you and scorn you."

    Much of the population is perfectly willing to be miserable,
    but some of you are less willing to be miserable.

    We encourage Connection!
    We're not encouraging addiction.

    We are encouraging connection. But sometimes it helps,
    if you can convey to them why they have had those impulses.
    And some of them are ready to hear that from you,
    and it makes perfect sense to them, and some of them are not.
    We would rather see someone with a relief.

    We would not take their substance from them, until we had given them
    an alternative bridge to connection.
    But so many people are pushing so hard against the addiction itself,
    because they don't understand it,
    that those words would not be well received by them.
    They think that the first thing we've got to do, is get it away from them.

    If the users were to withdraw the addictive substance from their system,
    after about three days, the cells would stop calling,
    and the physical craving would subside, temporarily.
    But the reason that they went there to begin with, has not been tended to.

    And so, almost as soon as they turn around,
    something is going to remind them of something that's going to take them
    back into that lower vibration, and then they are going
    to long for the feeling of relief that the substance gave them.

    Any physical addiction, it doesn't matter how long
    they've been taking it or how full of it their body is,
    any addiction, would, between three and thirty days,
    be completely cleared from the system.

    Usually closer to three days than thirty days.

    But it is the emotional craving that must be tended to.

    What you have to say to a person, and help them to understand, is,
    "You are perfectly all right as you are, and it's nobody's business
    what you've chosen." But that's not the way most of the programs go.

    Most of the programs say, "You must admit what a rat fink you are.
    We have a step that says you've got to go to all of those people
    that you have wronged and you've got to open your heart
    and you've got to admit how unworthy and rotten you are."

    It was that feeling that drove them to drink to begin with, so now,
    what you're saying to them is, "We're going to take the substance away
    that gives you any relief, and we're going to poke a poker in your ribs
    until you want it again.
    We're going to torture you back into the very reason
    that you drank to begin with, but we're not going to let you drink."

    And they say, "Okay. Then I'll jump off a bridge."
    Or they will replace it with something else that is equally condemned,
    and probably illegal, which brings all sorts of other worrisome thoughts.

    What would we do if we were standing in your physical shoes,
    whether we were a counselor or a friend or even a stranger?
    One who is connected to the Stream is more powerful than millions who are not.
    If we had the blessed opportunity of having someone like that in our gaze,
    we would say, "I wouldn't worry about it."

    We would do everything that's in our power to soothe,
    to soothe the void.
    We would appreciate, we would praise,
    we would point out positive aspects, we would show them
    how to pivot, we would teach them about emotions,
    we would show them the difference between how this thought feels
    and how this thought feels, and we would encourage them
    to choose the thought that feels better.

    Most of all, you have to teach them selfishness.
    They have to be selfish enough that they don't care
    what somebody else thinks, and that's not an easy thing.
    You all have integrated yourself into a society,
    where you very much care what people think.
    That is the hardest hurdle for most of you to overcome.
    You do care what others think because you have trained yourself,
    most of you, to get almost 100% of your connection to Energy
    from somebody who is physically focused and approving of you.

    In your early stages, is where most of you begin vying for approval.
    You began standing on your head, but what you discover is,
    you cannot get that Energy Stream from someone,
    who is not connected to the Energy Stream.
    If they are not selfish enough to be connected,
    they've got nothing to give you. Even though they want to.

    Your parents want to give you everything that you need,
    but they can't give it to you if they're not connected to it.
    You have all kinds of people depending on each other
    for their connection.

    That's why Teachers like us and Teachers like you
    have come into this physical time/space reality,
    to remind you all how to make your own connection.
    To help you find your connection with Core Energy,
    so that you can set your Tone and never again be dependent
    upon what somebody else thinks about you.

    So that if you have a rough day,
    you don't need alcohol or drugs.

    You meditate and reconnect, or you quiet your mind,
    or you appreciate and reconnect,
    or you choose one of hundreds of pleasant images
    that you've been practicing that you keep in your pocket.
    You get one of them out and roll it around in your mind.

    You show yourself how to adjust your vibration.
    You never again depend upon the conditions to adjust your vibration.
    You leave behind what you have learned about conditional love,
    and you become one who loves unconditionally,
    and in order to do that, you say,
    "Nothing is more important than that I feel good."

    And in the beginning, sometimes that means,
    "I need a drug. I need some alcohol. I need a friend who is connected.
    I need a stepping stone to help me to connect."

    And that's why we say we wouldn't take the drug away.
    We would allow the drug, while we teach the greater message.

    -Why doesn't everyone who drinks, become an alcoholic?
    Why doesn't everyone who uses the drugs...?
    Children have a hard time with this. All of these drug campaigns,
    "Drugs are bad." They know that the peak performers, the heroes,
    the athletes are well involved. They know. They know the signals.
    They know the codes. They know the symbols. They know the signs.
    They know the lies. They know. You see?

    So people who don't know, say, "Don't do that."
    While people who are doing that are excelling.

    It's the same old thing that happened,
    when those who wanted to control said, "Keep these rules
    and be among the blessed, and break those rules and be condemned."
    And then, too many people saw too many people breaking the rules
    and being blessed, and they said, "Hey! Something's screwy here.
    I'm doing everything that's on this list, and I'm not being blessed.
    And they're breaking all the rules, and they're abundant.
    They're life's better than mine."

    And then the very wise manipulator said, "Oh, you cannot judge
    by your life here on earth. It is after you die that the rewards
    and punishments are given." So then the assumption was,
    the better it feels, the worse it is.

    "I guess I'm supposed to suffer and struggle and deprive myself
    of anything that I might desire -so that in heaven
    I will then receive my reward." And we say,
    "That is the screwiest one of all."

    Because Law of Attraction is not different in the physical,
    than it is in the Nonphysical.
    As you learn to find the vibration of connection,
    the vibration of connection is always yours.

    You Are Pure Energy When you leave this physical realm
    and release your attention from it, you leave behind
    all vibration of the lower, slower nature, and your vibration raises
    to the highest level.
    And so, there is no way that you could get so bad or so negative
    or so disconnected that it would affect your afterlife,
    because in the moment of your transition, you are Pure Positive Energy.

    Law of Attraction is responding to you eternally.
    And whatever you are offering, vibrationally,
    is what you are reaping in terms of manifestation,
    and that consistency is the most powerful and important part
    of our physical and Nonphysical Universe.

    You got much more than you bargained for there,
    but it is at the heart of everything you ask.
    Excerpted from the workshop in Kansas City, KS on Sunday, September 27th, 1998



    Outtake:

    Any physical addiction, it doesn't matter how long
    they've been taking it or how full of it their body is,
    any addiction, would, between three and thirty days,
    be completely cleared from the system.
    Usually closer to three days than thirty days.

    But it is the emotional craving that must be tended to.

    Kansas City, KS on Sunday, September 27th, 1998

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    i wonder if there is some quote regarding being addicted to abeforum....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuddly View Post
    i wonder if there is some quote regarding being addicted to abeforum....?


    "We want you to be addicted to FEELING GOOD!
    We want you to be addicted to having FUN!"

    -Abe

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