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    Hi sailorboat,

    I hope you understand that the people on the forum are eager to help you out. However, you need to be willing to engage with them and talk about HOW you are trying to apply the teachings. As it is, your posts have focused on "arguing for your limitations": a term we use when someone is determined to justify the reasons why they feel bad. The premise you are clinging to goes something like this:

    "Here is my current reality. For the following reasons, this reality cannot change. [Insert reasons]"

    And that is contrary to the fundamental premise that underlies all of Abraham's teachings, which goes something like this:

    "My current reality is a reflection of my vibration. Since my vibration can change, so can my manifested reality".

    Without allowing yourself to even entertain the possibility that that second premise might be true, there really is nothing we can discuss. I certainly understand that your current experience is offering you many reasons to feel crappy, but doggedly rehashing those reasons will get us nowhere.

    As WellBeing has suggested, how about you tell us how you've tried to apply these teachings so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildAndFree View Post
    As WellBeing has suggested, how about you tell us how you've tried to apply these teachings so far?
    I'm going to make a subtle, yet important fine-tuning here:

    I actually asked How is (present tense; I'm not interested in that past either) he applying these teachings now?

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    intheclouds,in the past i didnt want a house with swimming pool,i had other visions,"theoretically difficult to fullfill",in spite of it-they were all fullfilled-and the fate found even weird ways to fullfill them....now i want house with swimming pool,and there is strong belief that "if those other things,theoretically difficult to fullfill them were possible and manifested,this house with swimming pool should be equally easy"...but there is some but....there is still some additional vibration saying "theoritically difficult"....and i simply want to hit my brain with hammer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuddly View Post
    ....and i simply want to hit my brain with hammer...
    That approach is NOT really funny.
    It´s pretty cruel and not loving!

    I knoooow, it feels "better" to make fun about it, but making fun of your disempowerment will not help you further in the long run.
    In the long run, you must "make peace" with where you are, instead of pushing against.

    "You are where you are", and it MUST be ok for a little while, or you have no power.
    Get ITV UNCONDITIONALLY, and then.
    Embrace yourself where you are, and then.
    Be nicer to yourself, and then.

    The inspiration and the clarity come, when you put down the hammer, and RELAX into feeling a bit better.
    A bit more gentle. A bit more easy. A bit more hopeful.
    But let this fill in, naturally, to your relaxation or your INSPIRATION. Don´t "try to bang this into shape"

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    The manifestational universe is one big, omnipresent Tar Baby (if you don't really know what that is, look it up in Wikipedia). The more you focus on, whine about, explain, defend, and insist upon a given reality, the more that reality sticks to you.

    And you can't get yourself unstuck from it in one go. You have to use a variety of techniques to soften your stance about it, wiggle away from it one inch of flesh (or one thought) at a time. Physical techniques to get free of a Tar Baby, mental techniques to shift a reality you are living but don't like. But you can get free, free to go live something else, something else that is just as real as the reality you currently think is All That Is and Ever Will Be (which is nothing more than a mental Tar Baby you created for yourself with a relentless collection of bogus beliefs - and a belief is just a thought you keep thinking).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailorboat View Post
    Clearly I have come here for help and because I've read Ask & It is Given (a year ago yes but I intend to reread it), and so to discuss within that framework my issues which I find difficult to bring in line with the Abe teachings. Isn't one of the reasons this forum exists is to help people?
    Yes, and you, sailorboat, help all with your questions, so thank you.




    When you look at all of the factors in your life, it may feel overwhelming to think about how your desires will be fulfilled, but that is not your job. The Universe can handle the "how".

    The easiest way for me to manifest what I want is to get into the feeling of having that thing or event that I want, very purely. In other words, if I got what I wanted, how would I feel? As I get into that feeling, then what I want must happen. (I visualize myself in that action of having what I want as well as incorporate the feeling of it.) Then I distract myself by doing something else that I love, so that my mind is not doubting/or fearing that I won't get what I want. It even feels as if...if I don't get what I want, it will be okay, because this happiness (doing the thing that I love) is complete. Since there is no feeling of lack in my being then what I want is delivered.

    So how does it feel to be 25 or 22 years old with all possibilities ahead of you? (You create the physical appearance of aging too....you can appear younger.) How does it feel to be young and joyously interacting with other young people? How does your ideal life feel? Do not let logic get in the way...all of these factors you've already mentioned about why you can't have what you want. On a rainy day, if I want to spend time outdoors, the sun breaks through the clouds for the time I want to be outside...and I get my sunny time outside, despite weather predictions. It can start raining again as I go back indoors.

    Don't think so much. Visualize yourself doing what you want...get into the pure feeling of it. Feel the reality of it now. (You've been feeling another reality, the one you have now, and that is why it continues to be the way it is.) Visualize small snippets of the reality you desire....it's easier to do.

    Now is a fresh new beginning like a blank page to write on or a blank canvas to create on.

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    I want to thank you all for writing, I really do appreciate it.

    I am again unable to reply at length at the moment.

    I suppose I should reveal that I'm actually going through a very difficult period in my life at the moment, with terrible instability and that's not even considering my woes about the opposite sex.

    We're in the middle of litigation and in terrible debt, and struggling desperately financially and have been swindled so to speak, this is priority before I even think of the opposite sex.

    I want to talk about the Abe teachings etc. and how I've tried to apply it but I don't even have time to re-read the book.

    What I'm struggling with is terrible chemical depression, I keep going but I feel just like awful all the time, whether or not I think about problems or not. My mind is set against me and whatever I try to think about it's almost like being possessed by a foreign negative entity that sullies all good ideas and feeling good at all. As an example when I'm selling something I often under price it my mind telling me no one will buy it at that price, only to find later that I sold it very very cheaply, this I've had umpteen times.

    I realise that it's paramount that I feel better or like we're going to turn it around in our situation but it's so difficult with this depression.

    I've been trying breath meditation on an off for over a year, but I simply get overwhelmed by the amount of problems and my emotional sickness. I realise to take up any serious method I need to have stability, but the catch 22 is our current problems don't allow for that.

    I have to go now but would very much like to continue and actually answer the questions you have asked me when I have more time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailorboat View Post
    I want to thank you all for writing, I really do appreciate it.

    I am again unable to reply at length at the moment.

    I suppose I should reveal that I'm actually going through a very difficult period in my life at the moment, with terrible instability and that's not even considering my woes about the opposite sex.

    We're in the middle of litigation and in terrible debt, and struggling desperately financially and have been swindled so to speak, this is priority before I even think of the opposite sex.

    I want to talk about the Abe teachings etc. and how I've tried to apply it but I don't even have time to re-read the book.

    What I'm struggling with is terrible chemical depression, I keep going but I feel just like awful all the time, whether or not I think about problems or not. My mind is set against me and whatever I try to think about it's almost like being possessed by a foreign negative entity that sullies all good ideas and feeling good at all. As an example when I'm selling something I often under price it my mind telling me no one will buy it at that price, only to find later that I sold it very very cheaply, this I've had umpteen times.

    I realise that it's paramount that I feel better or like we're going to turn it around in our situation but it's so difficult with this depression.

    I've been trying breath meditation on an off for over a year, but I simply get overwhelmed by the amount of problems and my emotional sickness. I realise to take up any serious method I need to have stability, but the catch 22 is our current problems don't allow for that.

    I have to go now but would very much like to continue and actually answer the questions you have asked me when I have more time.
    hey sailorboat darling,



    i just want you to know that I love you and if you want to practice and slowley move up the scale I can do it with you sometimes over a pm if you want

    you are so fortunate that you have attracted all of the wonderful responses here from everyone, (although it really isn't fortune or luck, YOU DID THAT!) you have had basically a private session with Marc and well bieng that people pay hundreds of dollars for, like a private coaching session.

    but send me a private message anytime and we both can work up the scale together on any subject you want, or we can do some of the processes in 'ask and it is given'.

    see ya later!

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    There's nothing wrong with seeking help from a specialist. Whenever you sense that your depression is taking hold of you, turn your thoughts in a very general direction, as in "I want to feel better." You know that "better" on the lower part of the EGS does not involve joy or optimism, but you can always reach for the next step above your current one.
    If you focus on the intention to feel better, you will come across a variety of tools and possibilities to stabilize your intention. Every step on the scale has something in store for you to help you climb the ladder. This help may come in form of a therapist, a book, something someone says to you, antidepressant drugs, an idea. It can take on several forms. Be open to whatever may manifest as a result of your intention to feel better.
    I did that myself many times, found therapists and books, had conversations and encounters that were perfect when I felt drained of life energy, met new people and new things that were a better fit to my new found anger, and so on. Abe never said that you got to do the Work all on your own. Anything that helps us feel better, is a good thing.

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    When you do read your book, you’ll have an opportunity to learn that every “thing” (every particle of the universe: every thought, atom, person, event, condition, location, experience) is a mixture of Wanted (by your preferences) and Unwanted (by your preferences). The Wanted in the conditions that you’re describing to us might be that they (like all Contrast) can help us to focus into a conscious decision to do things differently than the way we had been doing, which had called these conditions to us. As part of that decision, some people might understand that it’s hard to do something differently, if they don’t yet understand why or what they “should” be doing differently. Which brings us back to that self-education we’ve spoken about before.

    Quote Originally Posted by sailorboat View Post
    I want to talk about the Abe teachings etc. and how I've tried to apply it but I don't even have time to re-read the book.

    Maybe, as a result of the Contrast that you’re living and these conversations that you’ve been having with us, you might come to a decision which says, “Since my time is limited, which would be the most productive way of me spending my limited time? Is it writing lengthy posts on the Forum, arguing for my limitations and explaining how I’m in a place that I don’t (understandably) like? Or might it be by investing that same time to read a page or two from a book which I believe might help me?”

    Maybe a more productive conversation for you to be having might be to step away from this thread and these conditions and focus yourself on your self-education. Then, as you are carefully and thoroughly reading your book with the intention of learning what Abraham are teaching, you can open a thread asking for specific questions about what it is you’re reading, so that you give yourself the best education that you can.

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