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    Trying to get over addiction with Abraham teachings.

    Hello all people of the AbeForum,

    So, I am addicted to a particular habit that I would really like to stop. I have tried to quit for at least over a year, and have since not been able to curb how much I spend doing it or the frequency with which I do so. I'd rather not say what it is just yet (Not one person I know knows I have this little addiction). Every day, I think to myself "All right, don't do that thing, don't do that thing." This is just bringing it back into my experience, right? (Because I am giving my attention to it?)

    Does anyone know how to deal with addictions using the Teachings of Abraham? I listened to some videos, but couldn't really find a suitable answer (I'll listen to some a little after posting this). I usually have great self-discipline and control, but not on this (that's me telling how it is, yes? And this is why it keeps happening?).

    Any help or tips would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all and I wish you a great day of creating and well-being.

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    "We want you to become addicted with feeling good" -Abe


    Here is a quotecollection that might serve you enormously well!

    Abe about addictions, cravings and drugs


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    First of all, DO YOU WANT to get over the addiction or DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD get over it? because depending on which is the answer, you would take it in very different directions. A lot of people with an addiction problem have more of a guilt problem about a habit they really would like to keep, if they could get away with it. You can have it all.......For ex. I stopped smoking because I thought I should, but if you ask me what I would do if they told me that in a week the world is gonna end, one of the things I would do is go to a tobacco shop and buy myself a packet of my favorite brand of cigarettes. And I stopped smoking many years ago!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rose essence View Post
    First of all, DO YOU WANT to get over the addiction or DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD get over it? because depending on which is the answer, you would take it in very different directions. A lot of people with an addiction problem have more of a guilt problem about a habit they really would like to keep, if they could get away with it. You can have it all.......For ex. I stopped smoking because I thought I should, but if you ask me what I would do if they told me that in a week the world is gonna end, one of the things I would do is go to a tobacco shop and buy myself a packet of my favorite brand of cigarettes. And I stopped smoking many years ago!
    YES, never give up an addiction because you "should"!


    Hereīs a nice quote from Abe about smoking...


    Quitting to smoke-
    What Are You Saying YES To?



    QUESTION:
    A thing I have a lot of resistance with is, to quit smoking. I’ve quit three times a year for about the last nine years, but I know I like it, but then I still feel ambivalent about it.

    ABRAHAM:
    It’s interesting because even your decision is resistant because you’re talking about not doing something. In other words, you’re saying, “I have resistance in quitting.” And so, let’s talk about this just a little bit.

    If you could smoke and not feel resistance, the smoking would not be of any detriment.
    It’s not the smoking that makes you sick,
    it’s resistance.


    The reason that smoking is becoming more and more detrimental is because people believe it’s bad, but they’re doing it anyway — and whenever you do something that you believe you shouldn’t do, there is extraordinary resistance.

    To do something that you believe is right: There’s no resistance. Or to not do something you believe is wrong, there’s no resistance — but to believe that it’s bad for you and to do it anyway, that’s where the resistance is.

    We think that the struggle you’re having with it is because there’s a part of you that is wanting you to know — and to assist others in knowing — that it is not the cigarettes that are the problem. It is the resistance that is the problem. So when you say, “I want to stop smoking,” we would say, well,
    what is it you do want?

    -You’re saying “no” to smoking, which really what you’re saying is “no” to sickness or “no” to disapproval of others, or “no” to being banished in restaurants or in offices. You’re saying “no” to disapproval mostly, or “no” to declining health.

    So what are you saying “yes” to? “I want to have a vital, happy life. I want to feel the best I can feel in my body. I want to harmonize with people as much as possible.”

    As you begin talking about what you say “yes” to, what you will begin noticing is, that sometimes the “yes” to harmony will be stronger maybe than the “yes” to cigarettes, or maybe they are not separate.
    “Maybe I can have my cigarettes and have all of that, too.”

    We, some years ago, saw smoking as very beneficial to people because they usually did it purposefully to relax. It was a time that they sort of put everything else down, they went to a specific place to do it, they relaxed, they breathed deeply while they were doing it.

    Don’t you see people, very often, as they are drawing in the smoke, don’t you see them sort of relaxing and basking as the Energy flows through them? Can’t you see them sort of using it as an opportunity to release resistance?


    And if you could enjoy every cigarette you smoke, not by saying, “to hell with you who thinks I should go to the smoking section…” — in other words, as you resist the laws; as you resist the non-smokers who are so pious in their pushing against you; or as you resist anything about it that you don’t like — that’s resistance.

    Jerry talked about the holes in his clothes that he was putting there, or the stains on his fingers that he was putting there, and even as you resist those things you disallow the Well-being. So what we encourage you to do is, rather than saying, “I want to stop smoking,”
    we would encourage you to begin saying,

    “I want to allow the Energy to flow.
    What I’d really like is to find a way to let the Energy flow —I’d like to have my flow and smoking too. I’d like to be able to smoke and have Energy flow through me, at the same time.”

    The advocates against smoking would not be very happy to hear us, but they are wrong. They misunderstand.

    It is not a disease that kills you; it’s resistance that kills you. It’s not smoking that kills you; it’s resistance that kills you. It’s not a disease that makes you unhappy; it’s resistance. In other words, you have been misinformed.

    So if you believe, as we do, that smoking is not inherently bad for your health, would you want to stop?

    GUEST:
    No, the only reason I want to stop is because people I care about, care about me smoking, you know what I mean?

    ABRAHAM:
    Yes, because they love you and they think it’s bad for you. They have decided that if you smoke you can’t be well. And so, you’re wanting to seek their approval by doing what they want.

    The resistance you have, is not to smoking.
    The resistance you have is having to stand on your head to please others. The resistance that you have is promoting conditional love.

    In other words, they’re saying to you,
    “I can’t feel good about you as long as you’re smoking. I’m afraid you’re going to die. I can’t allow the pure, positive Energy to flow through me as long as you’re smoking. You need to change what you’re doing in order for me to feel good.”

    And your resistance is, that every part of your Nonphysical being knows that it’s not your job to change your behavior, so that they can feel better.
    You can’t change your behavior in enough ways
    to make them feel better.

    You quit smoking, and then they’ll want you to lose weight, and you lose weight, and then they’ll want you to dress better, and then you dress better, and they’ll want you to buy a different kind of car, and then you buy a different kind of car, and they want you to move to the state where they live, and then you will move to the state where they live, and they’ll want you to let your hair grow out, and then they’ll want you to cut it and then they’ll want you to make it a different color and then they’ll want you to act your age and then they’ll want you…

    in other words, you just can’t stand on your head in enough different ways to make disconnected people happy, because what you’re doing, isn’t what’s bothering them anyway. It’s their own disallowance of the Energy. And to just play into that by standing on your head only perpetuates this myth about conditional love, you see.

    And so, what you’re wanting to say to those who love you who say, “I don’t want you to smoke because I don’t want you to be sick,” say to them, from your place of knowing,

    “Hey, I’m strong and well! Everything’s all right here. Actually, this smoking soothes me. I’m a lot less likely to die of a heart attack when I smoke than if I were to quit. If I stopped smoking now, it would aggravate me!”

    G-02/18/95



    and another, saying the same thing shorter:

    CRAVINGS are really INSPIRATIONS!


    Most cravings are about nutritional imbalance!
    Your body knows what it wants, and so, when a craving occurs,
    itīs because your body wants something,
    and you are translating it into that particular item,
    which is usually accurate- because there is something in there,
    that contains something, that your body wants.

    So, just as a general basis- we would encourage you,
    not to be so resistant about cravings, and start calling them
    INSPIRATIONS instead of cravings!
    "I have food-inspiration!"


    from the clip
    Abraham-Hicks: Cravings as Food Inspiration& Grid Momentum

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    I was just reading this exact quote from your collection and feeling like an idiot, haha!
    (not really an idiot, as it happens I am not specifically lined up to smoking being harmless, only generally, and at this point I also appreciate the freedom of being a non-smoker)

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    We CAN NOT get it wrong! The more we live, the richer we get in knowing what we want or donīt want!


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    There's a great vintage Abraham vid from 2001 wherein the HSer says she's been diagnosed with "love addiction." Most people struggle with addiction because they have great resistance to what they are really reaching for (their desire) when they reach for the substance (or behavior or person or....) and the typical model for overcoming addiction is to struggle to give up the desire. Desire, resist, desire, resist, desire, resist. What we know as the process of "recovery" from addictions is the very heart of the teachings of Abraham: Joyful allowing, living more and more in concert with our IB with less and less resistance to our desires. The struggle with addiction abates as we learn to allow our desire.

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    Aww FA, thatīs a GREAT and so pregnant description! Perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdsFlyingHigh View Post
    Hello all people of the AbeForum,

    So, I am addicted to a particular habit that I would really like to stop. I have tried to quit for at least over a year, and have since not been able to curb how much I spend doing it or the frequency with which I do so. I'd rather not say what it is just yet (Not one person I know knows I have this little addiction). Every day, I think to myself "All right, don't do that thing, don't do that thing." This is just bringing it back into my experience, right? (Because I am giving my attention to it?)

    Does anyone know how to deal with addictions using the Teachings of Abraham? I listened to some videos, but couldn't really find a suitable answer (I'll listen to some a little after posting this). I usually have great self-discipline and control, but not on this (that's me telling how it is, yes? And this is why it keeps happening?).

    Any help or tips would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all and I wish you a great day of creating and well-being.
    for me , the addictions always replaced the emotional guidance of my IB . I did it for relief cos that was the easiest path even tho I was actually in more pain before,during and after practicing my addictions.

    so for me it was a decision that I rather feel crappy during the quitting of it than to feel crappy all the time and crappy about the hamster wheel I was on.

    from there I could work on learning how to love myself layer after layer........ not fearing what I encountered when I had memories or feelings or thots that I "shouldn't" have. [thots that come up that I think make me look bad , chances are these are in my head from growing up around other ppl who had the same pains they passed on to me ].

    I found that each thot and feeling was just a marker to keep going up the egs in general and then on each subject.

    and for me it took some time to have good positive focus..... but not practicing my addiction every day was the best thot I had..... that I didn't have to use [whatever] today in order to feel good about me,myself and life.

    so .
    1. egs all day, cos those feelings want to be heard when you aren't busy denying them
    2.keep busy with something else that is fun [nature,housework, pets, kids, exercise... social groups that aren't practicing your particular addiction-for awhile at least]
    3. finding things to appreciate, mediate
    4.happy movies and songs
    5. being around happier ppl more than "aint it awful" types.

    have fun focusing on a wanted lifestyle , write new stories about living free from anything that keeps you in bondage..... freedom is ours no matter what we want.

    ok, that's all I have.

    oh yea, and don't spend time comparing yourself to anything or anybody..... that 's counterproductive to the positive momentum.
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